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just a byte: how do I make the switch to software engineering while entering the field as a manager?

Dear JobGals,

I am in a situation where I was looking to get more involved in the computer side of technology.  I have worked in the broadband industry as an RF and Fiber engineer for 8 years but want to focus more on what excites me.  Yes, I love where broadband is headed (television and the special features that are going to take home entertainment to the next level, HSI, VoIP, etc.) but I want to be more involved in the development of the newest programs and technologies that will shape the way the entire globe will interact. 

My biggest problem is that I do not know what the first step should be to get in the door.  I have always been looked at as a creative person.  I am always looking for new things to learn about.  I have started studying HTML, XHTML, Java, XML, to familiarize myself with the languages involved. 

Does this mean I want to be a programmer or designer?  No.  I am looking more at entering in at a management level.  I want to utilize my business education (BS in Business Management and an MBA) along with my excitement and love for technology to help guide the direction and development of programs, etc. 

Am I going about it in the right way by learning the basics of the languages or should I do something else first?

Mike

Gretchen

Hi Mike – It sounds like you are getting a little ahead of yourself.  You have two problems here:  1) How do you effectively make the switch over to software engineering, and 2) how do you make an industry switch while staying in a management career path?

To your first problem of switching industries, it sounds like you are going about it the right way.  I would encourage you to take a few programming classes at a local university to familiarize yourself with languages and get a better overview of what technologies are out there.  I’d then settle on a few (which it sounds like you have) and begin to build experience in these areas.  Employers like to see initiative and passion, so see if you can take on a few projects – either paid or as a hobby – in your free time.  You need to build some experience and a portfolio to demonstrate practical usage of these languages.

Now, on to your second problem … How do you make this switch and start off at a management level instead of an individual contributor programmer?  Here, I think your expectations may be a bit off.  It’s not my experience that employers will hire someone without a prior “in the trenches” background to step in and lead a group of people.  You need to demonstrate a track record of “doing” before you can “lead.” 

If you are serious about making the switch into software, I would be prepared to take on an individual contributor role.  That doesn’t mean you’d start as purely “entry-level.”  You do have 8 years of real-world experience, and even though your professional experience wasn’t focused on this new technical area you are entering, it will still count in terms of responsibility and salary.  Also, given your work and educational background, you may find the transition to management won’t take as long as it may take others.  You can get there eventually.

For now, I would recommend considering your priorities, and if this switch is important to you, be prepared to take a small step back when entering this new industry.  If you are willing to make the sacrifice, you will likely reach your end goal.

Good luck!
gretchen

Mike’s question can be viewed in the JobSytnax Forums in the Career Changes into Tech thread.  Please offer up your advice, too!

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Published Thursday, June 29, 2006 2:28 PM by gretchen
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Mike said:

Thank you Gretchen for the input.  

I guess I should have made it a little clearer as to my intentions.  When I speak to moving into a management position I was thinking pretty much from a transition frame of mind.  I understand that actually jumping straight into a managers role is a stretch when switching over.  Especially when going into a specialized field like technology.  In most other industries I actually view the managerial role more as a "people" manager position instead of a "knowledge of the industry" position.  However, in the tech side of things I can see where actual "in the trenches" experience is a must.  I will definitely take your suggestions to heart and look more at the move as a lateral or even a small backward slide.

As for the education end of things I have made that decision.  I am going to take a few of the UW courses and certificate programs to get a better feel and understanding.  As for the experience end of things I have worked things out with the development group in my engineering office to allow me to develop a database and web-interface program that my manager has been requesting for almost a year now.  When I offered up to do it they jumped on it so I'm excited to get that going.

Thanks again for your valuable input.  I think that the JobGals have something here and I'll definitely enjoy working with you all when I feel that it is time to really pursue the move.

Sincerely,

Mike
June 29, 2006 4:12 PM
 

gretchen said:

Happy to help!  It sounds like you are defintely on the right track.
June 29, 2006 8:44 PM
 

Drew said:

I finally remembered to subscribe to the blog. Had been intending to for a while, but actual job unting was taking up most of my computer time. I really enjoyed JobsBlog when I was a 'Softie and I'm sure I'll enjoy reading all of the back posts here at the Job Syntax blog, too.

I'm posting this question here because it may help Mike:
What's a recruiter's take on contributing to an open source project (now that I can)? It seems to be one of the better ways to have actual code in an actual product that someone could look at. Is this something recruiters like/dislike? Is it something that would be useful later in the interview loop?
June 29, 2006 8:45 PM
 

gretchen said:

Hi Drew - Glad you found us over here!  Thanks for subscribing.

Working on open source projects is a great way to gain experience, and the recruiters I know look on this experience very favorably.  When I was at Microsoft, the recruiters always felt open source experience was a plus ... but strangely many applicants hide that experience from us. ;-)
June 30, 2006 1:50 AM
 

Josh said:

Shameless plug to Drew... My team is specifically looking for developers that have a background with open source development.  :-)

http://port25.technet.com/archive/2006/06/29/2666.aspx
June 30, 2006 3:13 AM
 

tod hilton said:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Mike's experience and desired career path look to be a good mix for a PM role. He wants to understand the technologies and development languages, but doesn't want to 'write code.' The PMs who have a real interest in the technologies, understand a bit of coding/development and the work/time that goes into it always seem to be easier to work with and more successful than the ones that are only in it for 'the processes.'
June 30, 2006 1:20 PM
 

Mike Kinney said:

Thanks for the post Tod.

I didn't make this a clear statement in my initial question to the JobGals (Gretchen and Zoe).  PM is definitely the focus for me.  However, as Gretchen has expressed, I really get the feeling that I would need to do a little trench work before I would be given an shot at a PM role.  

So yes, this is where I am looking to go.  I have caught on quick enough to the syntax for HTML/XHTML.  It's just a matter of remembering all of the tags now.  :)  I'm taking baby steps here and will move on to CSS and then Java/JS.  From there it's on to the XML and even some C# and C++.  

Like I mentioned, I'm not in it to actually do it full time but I do want to understand it enough to check it out.  I also want to practice a bit by developing my own site and such without utilizing the easy tools available.  It's time to get down and dirty and learn it the right way.

I'm a patient guy.  At first I was anxious to get out there and see what my MBA would get me but I have calmed down a bit now.  

Thanks again for the posts on this.  I really do appreciate all input in regards to my question as well as all of the valuable insight given in the other posts.

Mike
June 30, 2006 5:05 PM
 

Drew said:

Josh:
Heh. Go figure that you'd be here, too. :-)
Thanks for the interest, but I'm focused on security as a career path and the only exception I'll accept would be a short stint somewhere in case I need a little extra cash to extend my search for the right security geek job. On top of that, I'd really like at least a little bit of non-Microsoft experience to put on a resume. Microsoft treated me very well, but I feel like I owe it to myself to see what it's like elsewhere. At least for a while. Not to mention how happy I am that I can finally read Mozilla sources now that I'm not a 'softie . . .
July 5, 2006 3:49 PM
 

Josh said:

No problem. Had to ask
July 5, 2006 6:29 PM
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