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Zoe

Mr. Zoë just recently returned from a whirlwind business trip to several Asian countries.  Being a student of business culture, I couldn’t wait for him to get back so I could pepper him with questions about the work environments, employees and especially about finding great software engineering talent. 

He came home with lots of funny stories and some really great pictures.  When I asked him what the biggest surprise was his answer wasn’t shocking to me, but it did give me pause.  We all know that in sheer volume countries such as China and India tend to graduate more software development engineers then any other.  A huge reason as to why there has been a great deal of hi-tech outsourcing to these nations and why companies such as Microsoft, Google, Apple, Oracle, Sun, the list could go on and on, all have offices in the Asian theater.  It’s a fact that the US just isn’t seeing the same level of interest in software engineering careers or folks graduating from universities with these engineering degrees.  So when it comes to US employers trying to hire domestically, they sometimes have to weed through dozens and dozens of unqualified resumes to find the one candidate that potentially meets their needs.

But what would you do in the opposite situation?  Imagine you were a prestigious employer with offices in one of these countries and you hade to wade through 1500 qualified applicants for one position.  What selection criteria do you use in a situation where each person possesses the educations, skills and experience that are a direct match for the position?

I’m not sure I have an absolute answer, but I would imagine that it could be similar to what some Ivy League or other high caliber universities face when making their way through thousands of applicants each year.  They are looking for something unique that sets candidates apart in their application – activities, personality etc…

I asked Mr. Zoë about this and he told me that they basically screen – and by screen I mean talk to – each and every qualified applicant for the role.  Now I am not sure this is the case for every company, but it was for the few he visited.  That just seems like a daunting task to me.  There’s got to be a better way to find the best person for a job in that situation. 

Ideally it would be great if candidate resumes had some identifying markers, but even more so it would be great if there were a more automated process.  One thought would be a front end system where when people apply they could answer questions that would automatically rank their qualifications against other potential candidates.  I know this has been thought about and probably is out there somewhere.  Is anyone using something like this?

I don’t know.  What do you think?  What solutions are already out there or would you create to solve this problem?

Just rambling today I guess :)   

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Published Thursday, July 13, 2006 12:08 PM by Zoe
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Jeff Mayeur said:

I spent some deal of time working for a company that attempts to do just that for the hourly world.  A few years back they started to try to do the same in the salary space.  Unfortunately they made two very acquisitions instead of developing their own software, but that aside the idea of using electronic applications in conjunction with statistical analysis and assessment for ranking of candidates is here to stay.  That leads me to the old joke:

An IO Psychologist, a Statistician and a Software Engineer are sitting at a bar.  In the course of some idle banter, it comes up that all three of them work for the same electronic employee screening firm.  The bartender asks what each of them does.

The IO Psychologist answered, "I discover, develop and refine the varied ontology of the modern human capital market."

The Statistician answered, "I use n-dimensional data structures to explore the multi-vector intersections of employer and employees."

The Software Engineer smiles and says, "I write the software that lets these megalomaniacs think they're actually doing something."
July 13, 2006 5:26 PM
 

Zoe said:

Thanks for sharing your story and your joke Jeff!  It definitely gave me a little snarkle today :)
July 13, 2006 6:22 PM
 

Anon Coward said:

Zoe,

First, you guys are doing a great job with the blog and recruiting in general.  I think Microsoft lost something big when you guys walked out the door.  

Now in response to your post, I think that part of the problem we are seeing here in the states with being competitive against countries like Japan is due in part to some of the things you mentioned in your post.  By suggesting a "better" way of screenign through these applicants, I think you are really trying to say "easier" way of doing it.  You are suggesting ways of automating tasks that can literally never equate to the amount of information gathered through cognitive feedback gained as a result of human to human interaction.  

Now I know we like to have things the easy way here in the states, and I am all for that.  But by taking the long road by screening each and every one of those candidates, you can ASSURE yourself that you are not overlooking the right person for the job, or that gem in the rough that maybe just didn't have as spiffy of a resume.  What you see on paper many times does not equate to the person behind that piece of paper.

So my solution to this dilema is pretty simple - do it the tried and true way: good 'ol fashioned hard work and talking to each person one on one.  It is the only way to assure an accurate result in the end, and the net result is that you end up with the best person for the job.  No machine in the world can substitute your intuition and good judgement.  

Keep up the great work!


July 14, 2006 4:51 PM
 

Zoe said:

Thanks Anon!  I actually agree that the only real way to screen a person is, well in person.  However, how do you decide who to screen?  As I mentioned, it's fairly simple in the US to pick out the best candidates from the lot based on a set of criteria you may be looking to fill.  However, in the case of Asian countries, particularily China, what if each of your applicants fit your criteria, and you have 1500 of them, and you don't just have one position to fill, but 60-100?  It's an interesting dilema no matter how you look at it. :)
July 16, 2006 12:14 PM
 

Kent Peasley said:

This site is pretty close to what you are talking about.  http://www.gettinghired.com/
I tried it as a candidate the other day.  Before I could put in my resume I had to fill out a personality test, then a cognitive ability type test.  Doesn't look like many companies are using the sire though.
July 24, 2006 2:57 PM
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